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<blockquote data-quote="bertos" data-source="post: 6898684" data-attributes="member: 141323"><p>sto' cercando di datare questo telaio gianni motta e procedere cosi a restaurarlo, alcune cose pero non mi quadrano : dal telaio (stretto dietro) e il supporto per deragliatore a saldare pare una personal 2001 ( non R ) ma la forcella sembra di una personal 2000, il tubo reggisella di diametro 27,02 e peso del solo telaio kg 1,810 ( forse columbus? ) credo che sia inizio anni 80 , forse una di quelle bici che con l'evoluzione del modello presentano elementi del vecchio e del nuovo o semplicemente un telaio con forcella del modello precedente? sotto la scatola del movimento centrale presenta un numero 24 e una lettera L ( non so' cosa significhi ) si accettano opinioni al riguardo. </p><p> </p><h4>Allegati</h4> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_151615-jpg.267026/" target="_blank"><img 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[QUOTE="bertos, post: 6898684, member: 141323"] sto' cercando di datare questo telaio gianni motta e procedere cosi a restaurarlo, alcune cose pero non mi quadrano : dal telaio (stretto dietro) e il supporto per deragliatore a saldare pare una personal 2001 ( non R ) ma la forcella sembra di una personal 2000, il tubo reggisella di diametro 27,02 e peso del solo telaio kg 1,810 ( forse columbus? ) credo che sia inizio anni 80 , forse una di quelle bici che con l'evoluzione del modello presentano elementi del vecchio e del nuovo o semplicemente un telaio con forcella del modello precedente? sotto la scatola del movimento centrale presenta un numero 24 e una lettera L ( non so' cosa significhi ) si accettano opinioni al riguardo. [HEADING=3]Allegati[/HEADING] [LIST] [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_151615-jpg.267026/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_151615.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238152-e76bf4eb1f0f6549782e8216756acd24.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_151615.jpg 783,5 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_151704-jpg.267027/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_151704.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238153-fb35d4a7d7e43b0a7087ec7560feb1b3.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_151704.jpg 648,5 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_151726-jpg.267028/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_151726.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238154-553b1c2497fd88c8c7613e109835aa7e.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_151726.jpg 572,7 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_151745-jpg.267029/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_151745.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238155-0d7e818c55c68e77b3b6f3a08de48d4d.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_151745.jpg 225,7 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_151809-jpg.267030/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_151809.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238156-bc79edcaea3915f5a699051090ba92e9.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_151809.jpg 192,6 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_151832-jpg.267031/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_151832.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238157-b4d0e0d2c46d6783e3123b8f3f872958.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_151832.jpg 247,6 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_151959-jpg.267032/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_151959.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238158-34d805ac3736a348dde58e02a24261c7.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_151959.jpg 205,3 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_152019-jpg.267033/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_152019.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238159-3c75a9e30f56cadd6d0605ae6282e6ad.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_152019.jpg 191,4 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_152040-jpg.267034/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_152040.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238160-e1baf366ec078ab582c1d12bcc7c6542.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_152040.jpg 235,1 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_152059-jpg.267035/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_152059.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238161-bdd99597ab10e6811e4559165dcf3e4f.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_152059.jpg 782,1 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_152110-jpg.267036/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_152110.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238162-9aee2df0522465b7d5b61ea11500a893.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_152110.jpg 705,4 KB · Visite: 0 [*][URL='https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/attachments/img_20210227_162307-jpg.267039/'][IMG alt="IMG_20210227_162307.jpg"]https://www.bdc-mag.com/forum/data/attachments/238/238165-a463c229a3e7dc899aaa5fcd060a5aab.jpg[/IMG][/URL] IMG_20210227_162307.jpg 246,4 KB · Visite: 0 [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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